GUIGOZ 17
C : Bwakeye Mike, urakoze cane kumpa akanya ko kuvugana. Hoba hariho idini risumba ayandi yose. Har’ico Bibiliya ibivuga ko ?
M : Bibiliya iravuga muri Yakobo1 :27 « Idini itunganye itagira agasembwa imbere y’Imana Data wa twese n’ukuraba impfuvyi n’abapfakazi mu marushwa yabo, no kwirinda ngo ntiwanduzwe n’ivy’iyi si »
C : Kuber’iki abapfakazi n’impfuvyi? Kuber’iki bifise akamaro cane mu nyonga z ‘Imana ?
M : Inyishu iroroshe cane: kubera yukw’Imana yihishije mu bapfakazi, impfuvyi n’uwufise ico akenye wese
C : Urashobora kumbwira umuntu umwe gusa mur’iyi si adafise ico akenye?
M : Uko n’ukuri koko, abantu bose barafise ico bakenye ariko iyo mugenzi wawe akenye amafaranga yo kuriha amashure urashobora kuyamuha ariko haheze igihe akazoyagusubiza si vyo none?
C : Birumvikana cane
M : Ni vyiza. Imana rero yihishije mu bantu badashobora kugusubiza canke kukuriha iyo ufise ico wabahaye
C : Ugomba kuvuga yukw’igihe badashobora kunyishura, Imana izonyishura mu gishingo cabo ?
M : Neza cane
C : Ntunga unyereke aho ico gice kibivuga kiri muri Bibiliya
M : Uzosoma muri Luka14 :12-14 aho Yesu avuga yuko dutegerezwa gutumira abakene, ibimuga n’impfuvyi…. Kubera yuko badashobora kugusubiriza mu nkoko. Rero igihe cose ufashije umuntu adashobora kukwishura, utegerezwa kubikorana umunezero kuk’uba ubikoreye Umwami
C : Jeho namara igihe nibaza ico nokorera Umwami ? Nahora niyumvira ko gusenga, gusoma bibiliya, gutanga ikigira cumi n’amashikanwa bihagije ubwavyo kandi bihimbaza Imana. Yesu akaba yihishije koko mu mpfuvyi n’abapfakazi, bisobanura ko duhura nawe imisi yose ntitubimenye ?
M : Neza cane. Ni co gituma kumusi w’urubanza benshi bazobaza Umwami igihe bamubonye arwaye, anyotewe cank’ari ingezi… bazotangazwa n’ingene Umwami azobajinjibura kubera ko batamuserutseko
C : Ushaka kuvuga yuk’Umwami azotubaza ingene twamubonye mu bukene bunaka ntitwamuserukako ?
M : Egome ! tuzokwisigura imbere yiwe twese nkuko muri Matayo25 :40 handitswe ngo :
« Umwami nawe azobishura , ati ndababwire ukuri : ko mwabigiriye umwe mur’abo bene Data bari hanyuma y’abandi, ni jewe mwabigiriye » Mu gihe muri Matayo25 :45 avuga ngo:“ Ko mutabigiriye umwe mur’aba bari hanyuma y’abandi, nanje ntimwabingiriye »
C : Ariko Mike, nibaza ko Yesu yariko avuga bene Data, niba zo yariko avuga abizera. None dutegerezwa gufasha abakizwa gusa kugira tuzoronke impera? Bibiliya ibivugako iki?
M : Ego cane. Muri Abagalatiya 6:10 handitse ngo: “d”
C: Ahann! Ndatahuye ko nkwiye gufasha abantu bose muri rusangi ariko cane cane abana b’Imana. Ariko jewe ndacari umunyeshule kandi nta mafaranga akwiye mfise yo kugarukira abo bantu, uravye ibinsaba amafaranga buri kwezi, jewe ndiyumvira kw’Imana intahura…. Kandi ikirengeye ni ukwizera mfise kuri Yo ?
M : Uvuga nk’ah’umenga Imana irakeneye amafaranga yawe kandi ugaca wibagira ko atari na rwawe kuko Bibiliya ivuga muri Hagayi2 :8 y’ukw’amafeza n’amazahabu aray’Uhoraho. Ico ngomba kuvuga n’ukw’Imana idakeneye amafaranga yacu, ariko ikeneye imitima yacu. Iragomba ko tugaragaza urukundo rwayo mu gufashanya n’abandi. Ni ko kamere k’Imana, rero igihe umbwira yukw’igikenewe ar’ukwizera ufise kuri Yo, ico no kubwira co ni uko ukwizera kutagira ibikorwa ataco kuba kumaze
C : Ukwizera kutagira ibikorwa ntaco kumaze gute ?Ariko Bibiliya iravuga mu
Banyefeso2 :8-9 ko twakijijwe kubw’ukwizera ntivyavuye ku bikorwa, ngo hoye kugira uwirarira
M : Woba warigeze kubona ikiziga n’amaso yawe?
C : Ego narabonye umubiri wa mawe igihe yapfa
M : Mbega ubugingo bwiwe bwari bumeze gute ?
C : Ariko ….Mike, nakubwiye ko yaramaze gupfa nta bugingo bwari bukiri muri we
M : N’uko rero, Bibiliya itubwira muri Yakobo2 :26 ngo : « Nk’uk’umubiri utari mw’impwemu uba upfuye, ni k’ukwizera kutagira ibikorwa kumera, kuba gupfuye »
C : Numva bikomeye !!!! Mpa akanya ko kunoganza ivy’umbwiye maze tuzosubire ejo
M : Isango ni Guigoz ya 18
